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December 21, 2009

Clean Energy Bill

The Clean Energy Bill
(submitted on behalf of Sen. Evan Palin)

Section1: This bill will help the environment. it will benefit jobs and better the peoples taxes and bills.

Section2: The total investment of this bill will be a total of $230 million. We will invest in Solar Power, Wind Energy, and research other ways to save energy.

Section3: The bill will create factories in the US that will make products here. We will then be able to sell to other nations. This will help the debt of this nation.

Section4: Lower electric bills by 15%. Will take some weight of of Americas payments.

Yours truly Sen.Evan Palin(R-AK)

Submitted 4:40 PM by Pileup
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So, this is what passes for legislation? It's barely even a summary of a bill.

I thought conservatives were against government intervention in the economy?

I am not opposed to the generalities of this bill, but the statement that it will save 15% on electric bills has no evidence as to how this would occur?

I know some criticized my Financial Stabilization act for being to complicated, but this seems the opposite extreme?
Posted By Nescafe on 12/21/09 at 6:13 PM | Reply
Evan Palin
Being that clean energy saves the cost of electric bills this will save a good amount on the citizens electric bill. This bill I am laying out as a foundation towards the next clean energy bill. As of now this is the foundation. i will then take the clean energy bill to the next level. if you would like to put some input of what the bill 2 should have in it please let me know.I believe bills should have a foundation and the move upwards from their.
Posted By Evan Palin on 12/21/09 at 7:02 PM | Reply
Senator Palin...
Senator Palin, I believe that this bill is too vage to even make sense in the House and Senate.

What I sugest, is that you make up a LOT of details that support your statments in the bill.

Also, you should state how you plan to do all of this, and how this will help, and some statments to back that.

I am sorry to say, but I can not support a bill that is not clear for the Representatives of the people to make the best decision on right now.

If you create a revision of this bill, then maybe that it can help you make this bill better.
Posted By McCain-Palin on 12/21/09 at 10:46 PM | Reply
Evan Palin
Like i have said this is the foundation that i will lay down. I will then add. This is my first bill ever. I am trying to add little by little. If this gets passed then I will come up with a part two to the bill. I am starting off small and working my way up. I am open for suggestions in bill 2. And if some one would like to be apart of making bill to I will be more than gladly to work with them. Democrat or Republican, or Constitution, Libertarian, ect.
Posted By Evan Palin on 12/22/09 at 7:29 AM | Reply
Evan McCain
I don't approve this bill brother.
Posted By Evan McCain on 12/22/09 at 3:49 PM | Reply
Evan Palin
Thats my twin who signed up as CP party.but I think this bill is the start of something new. As of now I am planting a seed and as i make other bills It will be as if I am watering that seed until it blossoms into a stabilized good bill
Posted By Evan McCain on 12/22/09 at 3:51 PM | Reply
Stephen O'Donnell
That is not the way legislation works. It is not "Pass this, then I will add details later."

I'm sorry, but this is not even debatable in its current form.
Posted By Stephen O'Donnell on 12/23/09 at 9:54 PM | Reply
Whats going on
I was wondering how you guys are partaking in the game if its closed. Message back with answers
Posted By jaywalker on 12/27/09 at 4:45 PM | Reply
this bill would help the envirment and we would be less dependent on oil and coal for energy plus we would be saving 15% on electric bills , any one who opposes this is mad or should not be in the senate.
Posted By someguy576 on 9/4/10 at 1:48 PM | Reply
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Please give us a real piece of legislation, this is nothing but a couple of vague bullet points.
Posted By James45 on 9/19/10 at 2:34 AM | Reply
this bill shoud help the environment
Posted By TREYANATOR887 on 11/6/10 at 4:30 PM | Reply
I support this bill, I'm somewhat shocked that this is coming from a conservative, but I believe there should be even more money invested to make a bigger impact.
Posted By Redsinkervunkel on 4/22/11 at 3:37 AM | Reply
This bill is amazing. It is amazing that a republican came up with this idea; I would expect a green party senator. I support it 100%. The money invested would have a great impact on the earth.
Posted By Demo on 7/23/12 at 3:21 AM | Reply
I am completely behind this bill. However, it could be better written.

This should help both the environment, the health of our citizens as well as the economy.
Posted By Nerdymouse on 11/9/12 at 12:29 AM | Reply
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Support 100% Good for the Economy.
Posted By Sanders on 12/21/12 at 11:44 AM | Reply
unfortunately no...
First off I would like to say that this is very general and gives no real specifics as to how this would all work if said bill was passed. Dumping money into clean energy will be a waste of time and money, as it has already proven to be. Many companies that focus on clean energy and energy alternatives, subsidized by the government, have declared bankruptcy. Here is a list of some of them: Abound Solar, Beacon Power, Ener1, Solyndra, and A123. All of these were funded by the government and have cost tax payers around the country billions of dollars. I like the concept of clean energy, however as proven in the past there is little, if not, no chance for success.
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