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January 25, 2010

Immigration Act of 2010

1. It is estimated that there are between 6 million and 12 million illegal immigrants in the United States.

2. These illegal immigrants showed total disreguard for US Public Law when entering the United States, and that is considered a criminal act.

3. All illegal immigrants must leave the country immediately and go through the proper immigration process to return. By doing so, the criminal act mentioned in part 2, will not be pursued.

4. Any illegal immigrant that opts against leaving will be deported and be permanently barred from reentering the United States legally, if they are caught.

Submitted by Senator Pileup
Submitted 7:09 PM by Pileup
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This law just restates what is on the books, it doesn't add anything new. Furthermore, those laws are already clearly unenforceable and I don't hear the Republicans offering any actual alternatives to this issue.
Posted By Silas A. Holcomb on 1/25/10 at 9:25 PM | Reply
Pileup
if you want to somehow round up 12-13 million illegal immigrants and ship them back to Mexico, be my guest. It can't work. We need a more rational solution.
Posted By Micheal D. Huckabee on 1/26/10 at 10:23 AM | Reply
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thank you Huckabee for being rational there is no way this is even possible.
Posted By Reggie Rocka on 1/26/10 at 11:09 AM | Reply
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The language is to overturn the Presidents Executive Order.

It does not say that we are going to round them up. It states an option for legally acquiring citizenship in the United States and reaffirms laws passed by Congress.
Posted By Pileup on 1/26/10 at 12:01 PM | Reply
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If they opt against the process for legally acquiring citizenship AND they are caught, they will be documented, deported, and will be unable to apply for legal citizenship.
Posted By Pileup on 1/26/10 at 12:04 PM | Reply
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This will not work, nor should President Holcomb's EO be overturned.
Posted By John Berlac on 1/26/10 at 10:04 PM | Reply
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And, can you provide an argument as to why President Holcomb's EO should not be overturned?

I believe the courts would overturn it because he overstepped his boundries.
Posted By Pileup on 1/28/10 at 12:15 AM | Reply
I agree
I also believe that President Holcomb's EO is completely unconstitutional. It is wrong, and Silas has yet to counter this point, to squash debate over the issue and allow his conviction to serve as the conviction of a nation.

However, I just believe that Pileup's alternative isn' feasible. Would immigrants turn themselves over and risk never being able to come back again? I agree that there should be a long and thorough process for citizenship, but dont think that we have to talk about deporting them back to Mexico.
Posted By Micheal D. Huckabee on 1/29/10 at 7:27 PM | Reply
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There is a distinct differance between wrong and unconstitutional. Show me where in the constitution it states he may not do this?

You also state this is "wrong" but you cannot seem to explain this. Why is this "wrong"? What makes you think you can choose the distinction between right and wrong?
Posted By John Berlac on 1/30/10 at 10:11 PM | Reply
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That is why Holcomb does not want a Supreme Court. Despite there not being an active SCOTUS, I still filed suit over this.

The intention of this bill is to contradict Holcomb's EO. It pretty much restores things to the way it was prior to the EO.

We can make new laws later. I had proposed to have a committee work on a bill to resolve this, but the President shot that idea down.
Posted By Pileup on 1/29/10 at 11:11 PM | Reply
oh ok
well, i suppose its all well and good then. We can reform afterwards, but we need to strike down this executive order.
Posted By Micheal D. Huckabee on 1/30/10 at 12:09 AM | Reply
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Well, hopefully President Holcomb will rescind his EO and I can withdraw my bill.

I am shooting down every argument that he puts forth with actual legal rulings, citing the US Constitution, showing that Bush's directives were reinforcing laws passed by Congress, and now the 14th Amendment argument.

Now, maybe he will understand why Bush opted against an EO for his amnesty idea.

Posted By Pileup on 1/30/10 at 8:40 PM | Reply
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Where in the constitution does it specifically talk about Executive Orders? It doesnt. Therefor, it is not unconstitutional.
Posted By John Berlac on 1/31/10 at 5:31 PM | Reply
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I do not agree with this do not deport but stricter and reforming laws will help
Posted By Nicholas Williams on 2/17/10 at 7:58 PM | Reply
I agree
We need to get tougher on illegal immigration. Each year illegal immigrants take jobs from U.S. citizens. We should deport all illegals caught.
Posted By John Ames on 10/25/10 at 8:26 PM | Reply
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This Bill is not practical.
Posted By justinbarbour1 on 6/9/11 at 4:11 AM | Reply
Justin Barbour (D)
This is impractical. It should not be supported.
Posted By justinbarbour1 on 6/9/11 at 4:15 AM | Reply
Nay!
We need to make it easier for illegal immigrants to become legal ones! Think of it, more jobs! An international reputation for compassion! If people come here illegally they must also really want to live, eat, sleep, work and learn here in America!
Posted By Senator Kubasik on 9/14/12 at 7:04 AM | Reply

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